Will Aitchison interviews Ron DeLord, the founder of Combined Law Enforcement Associations of Texas (CLEAT). In addition to being an attorney and experienced contract negotiator, Ron is a published author and respected historian of the law enforcement labor movement.
| Timestamp | Topic |
| 0:00 | Introduction. |
| 04:10 | Ron’s background. |
| 07:15 | Founding of CLEAT. |
| 11:28 | The unique approach to law enforcement collective bargaining in Texas. |
| 19:33 | Books authored by Ron. |
| 23:55 | The police union movement in Texas. |
| 27:00 | The influence of Saul Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals. |
| 30:10 | Ballot measures dealing with police oversight. |
| 43:45 | The trend towards progressive prosecutors. |
| 50:10 | How do recent trends affect the future of policing? |
| 56:28 | Using Chicago as a metaphor, what sort of advice would Ron give to a big-city police union facing a myriad of issues? |
| 1:05:36 | How binding arbitration and meet-and-confer differ in getting the best deal for members. |
| 1:11:47 | Ron’s take on boycotts lead by police unions, including those of Nike, Dunkin’ Donuts and Beyoncé, and national police unions’ involvement in politics. |
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